From lgramer at upstream.net  Mon Nov  8 11:53:04 2004
From: lgramer at upstream.net (Lewis J. Gramer)
Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2004 11:53:04 -0500
Subject: (IAAC) Fwd: Barnard plates/catalog on-line
Message-ID: <200411081653.LAA29070@jake.bcentralhost.com>

This was a nicely done Website, and especially for those who are
interested in making a project of observing dark nebulae: there's
little data accessible to amateurs online about these fascinating
(and challenging) objects, so this is a very welcome addition:

    http://www.library.gatech.edu/barnard


Clear skies,

Lew Gramer <owner at visualdeepsky.org>
Webmaster: http://www.visualdeepsky.org




-----Original Message-----
From: C.L.H.
Sent: Sunday, November 07, 2004 8:35 AM
To: Lew Gramer
Subject: Fwd: [RASCals] Barnard plates/catalog on-line

----- Original Message -----
From: The Grays <sueandpaul>
To: RASCals Discussion List <rascals>
Sent: Saturday, November 06, 2004 9:42 PM
Subject: Re: [RASCals] Barnard plates/catalog on-line


> Ed and all,
>
> This site is most useful to anyone who wishes to observe any of Barnards
> Dark Nebulae!
>
> I have had copies of some of the plates from this atlas on my website but
> this site that Ed posted is a complete scan of the entire Photographic
> Atlas of the Milkyway including the coments and finder charts!
>
> Just taking some time to read the plate descriptions by E E Barnad himself
> is a joy! I highly recomend this site to any observer looking at any
> Barnard Dark nebulae.
>
> Clear skies,
>
> Paul Gray
>
>
> At 12:44 PM 11/6/2004 -0800, you wrote:
> >     Some of you might find this site useful!

    http://www.library.gatech.edu/barnard

> >
> >This was posted to the sci.astro news group by William C. Keel
> >
> >Ed





From anonymous at sedna.atmob.org  Mon Nov  8 19:56:28 2004
From: anonymous at sedna.atmob.org (anonymous at sedna.atmob.org)
Date: 9 Nov 2004 00:56:28 -0000
Subject: (IAAC) Obj: NGC 16 - Inst: 10.1" f/4.5 Dobsonian
Message-ID: <20041109005628.927.qmail@sedna.atmob.org>

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Observer: Brent Reary
Your skills: Intermediate (some years)
Date/time of observation: 11/06/04  01:20 UT
Location of site: Rolla, MO  USA (Lat 37 57'N, Elev )
Site classification: Rural
Sky darkness: 6.0 <Limiting magnitude>
Seeing: 7 <1-10 Seeing Scale (10 best)>
Moon presence: None - moon not in sky
Instrument: 10.1" f/4.5 Dobsonian
Magnification: 77x, 128x, 257x
Filter(s): None
Object(s): NGC 16
Category: External galaxy.
Class: 
Constellation: Peg
Data: mag 12.0  size 1.8' X 1.0'
Position: RA 00:09  DEC +27:44
Description:
A uniform round, to slightly oval, halo.  It brightens to a fairly bright,
rather sharply defined, diffuse core.  Visible with averted vision at 77x,
it bore magnification well, being best seen at 128x-257x.

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From anonymous at sedna.atmob.org  Mon Nov  8 20:05:59 2004
From: anonymous at sedna.atmob.org (anonymous at sedna.atmob.org)
Date: 9 Nov 2004 01:05:59 -0000
Subject: (IAAC) Obj: NGC 23 - Inst: 10.1" f/4.5 Dobsonian
Message-ID: <20041109010559.1281.qmail@sedna.atmob.org>

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Observer: Brent Reary
Your skills: Intermediate (some years)
Date/time of observation: 11/06/04  01:40 UT
Location of site: Rolla, MO  USA (Lat 37 57'N, Elev )
Site classification: Rural
Sky darkness: 6.0 <Limiting magnitude>
Seeing: 7 <1-10 Seeing Scale (10 best)>
Moon presence: None - moon not in sky
Instrument: 10.1" f/4.5 Dobsonian
Magnification: 77x, 128x, 257x
Filter(s): None
Object(s): NGC 23
Category: External galaxy.
Class: 
Constellation: Peg
Data: mag 12.0  size 2.1' X 1.3'
Position: RA 00:10  DEC +25:55
Description:
A faint elongated oval halo, aligned nearly N-S.  Slightly wider in the
center and tapering toward each end.  It brightens to a diffuse core.
Visible with averted vision at 77x, it did not bear magnification well,
beginning to fade into the background at 257x.  Best seen at 128x.

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From anonymous at sedna.atmob.org  Mon Nov  8 20:16:50 2004
From: anonymous at sedna.atmob.org (anonymous at sedna.atmob.org)
Date: 9 Nov 2004 01:16:50 -0000
Subject: (IAAC) Obj: NGC 57 - Inst: 10.1" f/4.5 Dobsonian
Message-ID: <20041109011650.1635.qmail@sedna.atmob.org>

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Observer: Brent Reary
Your skills: Intermediate (some years)
Date/time of observation: 11/06/04  02:20 UT
Location of site: Rolla, MO  USA (Lat 37 57'N, Elev )
Site classification: Rural
Sky darkness: 6.0 <Limiting magnitude>
Seeing: 7 <1-10 Seeing Scale (10 best)>
Moon presence: None - moon not in sky
Instrument: 10.1" f/4.5 Dobsonian
Magnification: 77x, 128x, 257x
Filter(s): None
Object(s): NGC 57
Category: External galaxy.
Class: 
Constellation: Psc
Data: mag 11.6  size 2.2' X 1.9'
Position: RA 00:15.5  DEC +17:19.5
Description:
A faint, round, uniform halo which shows slight, gradual brightening to
a diffuse core.  A faint field star is located ~2' off the SW edge.
Visible with averted vision at 77x, it began to fade into the background
with increased magnification and was best seen at 128x.

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From anonymous at sedna.atmob.org  Mon Nov  8 20:42:37 2004
From: anonymous at sedna.atmob.org (anonymous at sedna.atmob.org)
Date: 9 Nov 2004 01:42:37 -0000
Subject: (IAAC) Obj: NGC 7678 - Inst: 10.1" f/4.5 Dobsonian
Message-ID: <20041109014237.2153.qmail@sedna.atmob.org>

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Observer: Brent Reary
Your skills: Intermediate (some years)
Date/time of observation: 11/06/04  02:55 UT
Location of site: Rolla, MO  USA (Lat 37 57'N, Elev )
Site classification: Rural
Sky darkness: 6.0 <Limiting magnitude>
Seeing: 7 <1-10 Seeing Scale (10 best)>
Moon presence: None - moon not in sky
Instrument: 10.1" f/4.5 Dobsonian
Magnification: 77x, 128x, 257x
Filter(s): None
Object(s): NGC 7678
Category: External galaxy.
Class: 
Constellation: Peg
Data: mag 11.8  size 2.3' X 1.8'
Position: RA 23:28.5  DEC +22:25
Description:
A faint round, to slightly oval, nebulous patch.  There is no detectable
brightening toward the core.  The galaxy is closely bracketed by 3 10-11
magnitude field stars, 1 on the S. edge and 2 on the N. edge.  The 2 stars
on the N. edge are aligned E-W.  Visible with averted vision at 77x, the
galaxy began to fade into the background at 257x and was best seen at 128x.

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From lgramer at upstream.net  Wed Nov 10 13:44:54 2004
From: lgramer at upstream.net (Lewis J. Gramer)
Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2004 13:44:54 -0500
Subject: (IAAC) Re: [Planetary_Nebulae] 2 B's and a K
In-Reply-To: <1100110753.197.29383.m12@yahoogroups.com>
Message-ID: <200411101844.NAA26813@jake.bcentralhost.com>

Thanks for posting the URLs of those very fine images,
Carl! BTW, I was curious what the exposure times were
for the ?B-V 5-2? image - you don?t mention on the site.

Now what are the chances that any of these ?B-V? objects
have ever been observed visually?? Sounds like a ?Deep
Sky Challenge? list for next year?s TSP... :)


As for K2-1, that one seems far more attainable for us
visual folks. I noticed Greg Crinklaw?s fine log of it
with a 16? scope on his SkyHound site, anyway:
 http://www.skyhound.com/sh/archive/dec/PK_173-05.1.html

And I also found a log from one of our fanatical Finnish
friends, Jere Kahanp??, for this obscure little object:
 http://www.funet.fi/pub/astro/dbases/observations/deepsky/other_pl/k2-1.jk.txt

But I could not ferret out any other amateur references
to this little fuzzy - although it was mentioned (with
no observing note attached) in the SECGPN. (Carl, you?d
probably find the notes in that compilation helpful, to
avoid problems like the one you encountered with K2-1!)
 http://www.ccastronomy.org/SECGPN-Rev-6-Notes.doc



Just on a lark, I did find a great log of another member
on that catalog - K2-2, from the inimitable Yann Pothier:
 http://www.visualdeepsky.org/logs/msg01257.html


More visual observations of interesting P-Ks, Ks and these
fine, obscure ?B-Vs? are always welcome at IAAC, of course!
 http://www.visualdeepsky.org/enter-log.html


Clear skies all,

Lew Gramer <owner at visualdeepsky.org>
Webmaster: http://www.visualdeepsky.org



> -----Original Message-----
>    Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2004 16:39:21 -0000
>    From: "carlburton2001" <cburton at speakeasy.net>
> Subject: 2 B's and a K
>
>
> Hi All-
>
> I just posted 2 Bohm -Vitense objects, BV 5-1 & BV 5-2 and Kohoutek
> 2-1 on my site.  The room is pretty bright still so I'm not sure of
> the colors.  The are at http://carl_9.tripod.com/bv_5-1.html and
> http://carl_9.tripod.com/bv_5-2.html and
> http://carl_9.tripod.com/k_2-1.html .  I wasted 4 hours one night
> doing Kohoutek 2-1 as it's position was incorrectly listed in my
> planetarium program.
>
> Comments?
>
> Thanks
> Carl Burton




From anonymous at sedna.atmob.org  Wed Nov 10 18:58:09 2004
From: anonymous at sedna.atmob.org (anonymous at sedna.atmob.org)
Date: 10 Nov 2004 23:58:09 -0000
Subject: (IAAC) Obj: NGC 7741 - Inst: 10.1" f/4.5 Dobsonian
Message-ID: <20041110235809.20565.qmail@sedna.atmob.org>

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Observer: Brent Reary
Your skills: Intermediate (some years)
Date/time of observation: 11/08/04  02:00 UT
Location of site: Rolla, MO  USA (Lat 37 57'N, Elev )
Site classification: Rural
Sky darkness: 6.5 <Limiting magnitude>
Seeing: 6 <1-10 Seeing Scale (10 best)>
Moon presence: None - moon not in sky
Instrument: 10.1" f/4.5 Dobsonian
Magnification: 77x, 128x, 257x
Filter(s): None
Object(s): NGC 7741
Category: External galaxy.
Class: 
Constellation: Peg
Data: mag 11.4p  size 4.0' X 2.8'
Position: RA 23:44  DEC +26:05
Description:
A fairly large, very faint, circular nebulous patch of uniform appearance.
There is no detectable brightening toward the core.  A pair of faint field
stars of uneven brightness are located just off the NNW edge.  Visible with
averted vision at 77x, it did not bear magnification well, fading into the
background at 257x.  Best seen at 128x.

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From anonymous at sedna.atmob.org  Wed Nov 10 19:08:52 2004
From: anonymous at sedna.atmob.org (anonymous at sedna.atmob.org)
Date: 11 Nov 2004 00:08:52 -0000
Subject: (IAAC) Obj: NGC 7817 - Inst: 10.1" f/4.5 Dobsonian
Message-ID: <20041111000852.20897.qmail@sedna.atmob.org>

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Observer: Brent Reary
Your skills: Intermediate (some years)
Date/time of observation: 11/08/04  02:15 UT
Location of site: Rolla, MO  USA (Lat 37 57'N, Elev )
Site classification: Rural
Sky darkness: 6.5 <Limiting magnitude>
Seeing: 6 <1-10 Seeing Scale (10 best)>
Moon presence: None - moon not in sky
Instrument: 10.1" f/4.5 Dobsonian
Magnification: 77x, 128x, 257x
Filter(s): None
Object(s): NGC 7817
Category: External galaxy.
Class: 
Constellation: Peg
Data: mag 11.8  size 3.6' X 0.9'
Position: RA 00:04  DEC +20:45
Description:
A faint, thin, elongated, uniform halo, aligned NE-SW.  It shows slight
brightening toward the core.  Visible with averted vision at 77x, it did
not bear magnification well, being best seen at 128x.

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From anonymous at sedna.atmob.org  Wed Nov 10 19:18:42 2004
From: anonymous at sedna.atmob.org (anonymous at sedna.atmob.org)
Date: 11 Nov 2004 00:18:42 -0000
Subject: (IAAC) Obj: NGC 63 - Inst: 10.1" f/4.5 Dobsonian
Message-ID: <20041111001842.21184.qmail@sedna.atmob.org>

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Observer: Brent Reary
Your skills: Intermediate (some years)
Date/time of observation: 11/08/04  02:30 UT
Location of site: Rolla, MO  USA (Lat 37 57'N, Elev )
Site classification: Rural
Sky darkness: 6.5 <Limiting magnitude>
Seeing: 6 <1-10 Seeing Scale (10 best)>
Moon presence: None - moon not in sky
Instrument: 10.1" f/4.5 Dobsonian
Magnification: 77x, 128x, 257x
Filter(s): None
Object(s): NGC 63
Category: External galaxy.
Class: 
Constellation: Psc
Data: mag 11.7  size 1.7' X 1.1'
Position: RA 00:17.5  DEC +11:27
Description:
A uniform oval halo aligned E-W.  It shows slight brightening toward the
core.  Visible with averted vision at 77x, it was best seen at 128x and
began to fade into the background at 257x.

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From anonymous at sedna.atmob.org  Thu Nov 11 06:48:47 2004
From: anonymous at sedna.atmob.org (anonymous at sedna.atmob.org)
Date: 11 Nov 2004 11:48:47 -0000
Subject: (IAAC) Obj: Ngc 1977 - Inst: 150 mm f/8 dobson
Message-ID: <20041111114847.32592.qmail@sedna.atmob.org>

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Observer: Emil Neata
Your skills: Advanced (many years)
Date/time of observation: 11 11 2004 3h UT 
Location of site: Ciupercenii Noi (Lat , Elev )
Site classification: Rural
Sky darkness: 6.2 <Limiting magnitude>
Seeing: 7 <1-10 Seeing Scale (10 best)>
Moon presence: None - moon not in sky
Instrument: 150 mm f/8 dobson
Magnification: 70x
Filter(s): none
Object(s): Ngc 1977
Category: Reflection nebula.
Class: 
Constellation: Ori
Data: mag   size 
Position: RA :  DEC :
Description:
NGC 1977 surrounds five stars arranged in an ?U? pattern, and is elongated towards the south. It's split into three areas, according to brightness. The brightest part surrounds the star 42 Orionis. The medium bright part is located to the W. The faintest part is visible with averted vision towards the south. 

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From anonymous at sedna.atmob.org  Thu Nov 11 23:51:31 2004
From: anonymous at sedna.atmob.org (anonymous at sedna.atmob.org)
Date: 12 Nov 2004 04:51:31 -0000
Subject: (IAAC) 
	Obj: NGC 1035, NGC 1042, NGC 1047, NGC 1048A, NGC 1048B, NGC 1052,
	NGC 1069 - Inst: 15 inch Obsession f4,5
Message-ID: <20041112045131.17666.qmail@sedna.atmob.org>

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Observer: Armin Hermann
Your skills: Advanced (many years)
Date/time of observation: 11 Nov 2004
Location of site: Sangkhlaburi, Thailand (Lat 15?N, Elev 200m)
Site classification: Exurban
Sky darkness: 5,6 <Limiting magnitude>
Seeing: 9 <1-10 Seeing Scale (10 best)>
Moon presence: None - moon not in sky
Instrument: 15 inch Obsession f4,5
Magnification: 131 and 342x
Filter(s): none
Object(s): NGC 1035, NGC 1042, NGC 1047, NGC 1048A, NGC 1048B, NGC 1052, NGC 1069
Category: External galaxy.
Class: 
Constellation: Cet
Data: mag various  size various
Position: RA :  DEC :
Description:
Nice group of several galaxies in eastern Cetus that feature various shapes. 
The group easily fits into the FOV of the 22mm Nagler at 78x but the group is 
probably best observed at 131x. Every member of this group shows different shape and brightness.That makes it a beautiful target.
1035:  12,2magv, 2,2x0,7?. Fairly bright edge-on galaxy elongated NW-SE. The 
galaxy does brighten very little towards the elongated center. At 342x the NE 
side darkens abruptly as if caused by a dark dust lane. Some mottled structure 
is faintly visible with averted vision. A faint 14mag star is superimposed on 
the galaxy?s SE end.
1042: 11magv, 4,7x3,6?. Huge face-on galaxy with very low surface brightness. 
At 131x easily visible but featureless disk. At 342x the galaxy appears very 
faint but some mottling is visible now around the faint small core. 
1047: 13,5magv, 1,3x0,6?. At 342x faint but still easily visible oval. A 
slightly brighter core is surrounded by a 1x0,5? halo.
1048A,B:  14,5magv each. Even at 342x those two galaxies are nothing more than 
extremely faint and just non-stellar dots S of NGC1042. Stellar at 131x 
magnification.
1052:  10,5magv, 3x2?. Bright and slightly oval galaxy with approx 2,5x2? 
diameter. The core is non-stellar but small and very bright. It is surrounded 
by a bright halo that shows no detail such as spiral arms or mottling. 
Brightest member of the group.
1069: 13,5magv, 1,4x0,9?. Faint oval of approx 0,6x0,4? size. NGC1069 is fairly 
easily visible at 131x as well as 342x but apart from a slightly brighter 
center no detail is visible.

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From anonymous at sedna.atmob.org  Fri Nov 12 00:01:44 2004
From: anonymous at sedna.atmob.org (anonymous at sedna.atmob.org)
Date: 12 Nov 2004 05:01:44 -0000
Subject: (IAAC) Obj: PNG 189.8+7.7, M 1-7 - Inst: 15 inch Obsession f4,5
Message-ID: <20041112050144.17974.qmail@sedna.atmob.org>

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Observer: Armin Hermann
Your skills: Advanced (many years)
Date/time of observation: 10 Nov 2004
Location of site: Sangkhlaburi, Thailand (Lat 15?N, Elev 200m)
Site classification: Exurban
Sky darkness: 5,4 <Limiting magnitude>
Seeing: 9 <1-10 Seeing Scale (10 best)>
Moon presence: None - moon not in sky
Instrument: 15 inch Obsession f4,5
Magnification: 131 and 342x
Filter(s): none
Object(s): PNG 189.8+7.7, M 1-7
Category: Planetary nebula.
Class: 
Constellation: Gem
Data: mag 13 magv  size 37" (?)
Position: RA :  DEC :
Description:
At 342x this planetary looks slightly elongated. I estimated the size to approx 
10x15? which is much smaller than the given size in Uranometria. I saw a round 
central part that is brightening towards the middle. This fairly bright center is surrounded by a faint elongated (NW-SE) halo that seems to fade away. Bluish
 color is obvious at 131x but the color is no more visible at 342x. At 131x the 
nebula looks just non-stellar. 

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From anonymous at sedna.atmob.org  Sat Nov 13 09:28:00 2004
From: anonymous at sedna.atmob.org (anonymous at sedna.atmob.org)
Date: 13 Nov 2004 14:28:00 -0000
Subject: (IAAC) Obj: IC 1747 - Inst: 15 inch Obsession f4,5
Message-ID: <20041113142800.7058.qmail@sedna.atmob.org>

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Observation Poster: Armin Hermann <burmeseinn at yahoo.com>

Observer: Armin Hermann
Your skills: Advanced (many years)
Date/time of observation: 12 Nov 2004
Location of site: Sangkhlaburi, Thailand (Lat 15?N, Elev 200m)
Site classification: Rural
Sky darkness: 5,8 <Limiting magnitude>
Seeing: 9+ <1-10 Seeing Scale (10 best)>
Moon presence: None - moon not in sky
Instrument: 15 inch Obsession f4,5
Magnification: 131 and 342x
Filter(s): OIII at 342x
Object(s): IC 1747
Category: Planetary nebula.
Class: 
Constellation: Cas
Data: mag 12,1magv  size 13"
Position: RA :  DEC :
Description:
Bright tiny and round disk. At 131x just non-stellar showing blueish color. The
 color is still obvious at 342x. Using the OIII filter the nebula shows a 
slightly brighter, mottled edge and darkens towards the center (annular shape).
 Without OIII filter I could glimpse the 15,8mag central star in moments of 
perfect seeing! That was quite a surprise given my aperture of 15".

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From anonymous at sedna.atmob.org  Mon Nov 15 02:02:54 2004
From: anonymous at sedna.atmob.org (anonymous at sedna.atmob.org)
Date: 15 Nov 2004 07:02:54 -0000
Subject: (IAAC) Obj: Abell 82, PNG 114.0-4.6 - Inst: 15 inch Obsession f4,5
Message-ID: <20041115070254.8151.qmail@sedna.atmob.org>

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Observer: Armin Hermann
Your skills: Advanced (many years)
Date/time of observation: 13 Nov 2004
Location of site: Sangkhlaburi, Thailand (Lat 15?N, Elev 200m)
Site classification: Exurban
Sky darkness: 5,8 <Limiting magnitude>
Seeing: 10 <1-10 Seeing Scale (10 best)>
Moon presence: None - moon not in sky
Instrument: 15 inch Obsession f4,5
Magnification: 131 and 342x
Filter(s): O III
Object(s): Abell 82, PNG 114.0-4.6
Category: Planetary nebula.
Class: 
Constellation: Cas
Data: mag 12,7 magv  size 94"
Position: RA 23:45.47  DEC +54:44.38
Description:
Visible at 131x only with the use of the OIII filter which it responds well to. 
At that magnification Abell 82 appears as an extremely faint round disk of 1,5' 
diameter with fading edges. No structure seen. Apart from the easily visible CS 
(14.9mag) there is another star embedded in Abell 82 and 2 are close to its edge. 
An increase to 342x was not helpful and even with the use of the OIII filter 
the nebula did not show up at that magnification.
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From anonymous at sedna.atmob.org  Mon Nov 15 02:06:27 2004
From: anonymous at sedna.atmob.org (anonymous at sedna.atmob.org)
Date: 15 Nov 2004 07:06:27 -0000
Subject: (IAAC) Obj: Vy1-1, PNG 118.0-8.6 - Inst: 15 inch Obsession f4,5
Message-ID: <20041115070627.8342.qmail@sedna.atmob.org>

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Observer: Armin Hermann
Your skills: Advanced (many years)
Date/time of observation: 13 Nov 2004
Location of site: Sangkhlaburi, Thailand (Lat 15?N, Elev 200m)
Site classification: Exurban
Sky darkness: 5,8 <Limiting magnitude>
Seeing: 10 <1-10 Seeing Scale (10 best)>
Moon presence: None - moon not in sky
Instrument: 15 inch Obsession f4,5
Magnification: 131 and 342x
Filter(s): 
Object(s): Vy1-1, PNG 118.0-8.6
Category: Planetary nebula.
Class: 
Constellation: Cas
Data: mag 12,5 magv  size 14"
Position: RA 00:18.42  DEC +53:52.18
Description:
Tiny bright round disk of approx 5" diameter. No color or structure seen. The 
14,1mag CS does come into view at 342x magnification. At 131x the nebula 
appears stellar. The use of an OIII does not increase the observed size which 
is far smaller than detailed in Uranometria.

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From anonymous at sedna.atmob.org  Mon Nov 15 02:12:16 2004
From: anonymous at sedna.atmob.org (anonymous at sedna.atmob.org)
Date: 15 Nov 2004 07:12:16 -0000
Subject: (IAAC) Obj: PNG 119.6-6.7, Hu1-1 - Inst: 15 inch Obsession f4,5
Message-ID: <20041115071216.8577.qmail@sedna.atmob.org>

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Observer: Armin Hermann
Your skills: Advanced (many years)
Date/time of observation: 13 Nov 2004
Location of site: Sangkhlaburi, Thailand (Lat 15?N, Elev 200m)
Site classification: Exurban
Sky darkness: 5,8 <Limiting magnitude>
Seeing: 10 <1-10 Seeing Scale (10 best)>
Moon presence: None - moon not in sky
Instrument: 15 inch Obsession f4,5
Magnification: 131 and 342x
Filter(s): 
Object(s): PNG 119.6-6.7, Hu1-1
Category: Planetary nebula.
Class: 
Constellation: Cas
Data: mag 12,3 magv  size 16"
Position: RA 00:28.15  DEC +55:57.54
Description:
131x magnification shows a stellar object with steel-grey color. An increase to 
342x resolves the PN into a tiny bright disk of approx 6" diameter. The edge of 
the round disk seems fading away. Otherwise the disk is of uniform brightness 
towards the center. Three 12 - 13mag stars are located in a row just ~2' E of 
the planetary. No CS visible. Interestingly the object is much smaller visually 
than the size given in Uranometria.

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From: anonymous at sedna.atmob.org (anonymous at sedna.atmob.org)
Date: 15 Nov 2004 07:17:13 -0000
Subject: (IAAC) Obj: PNG 144.3-15.5, Abell 4 - Inst: 15 inch Obsession f4,5
Message-ID: <20041115071713.8806.qmail@sedna.atmob.org>

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Observer: Armin Hermann
Your skills: Advanced (many years)
Date/time of observation: 13 Nov 2004
Location of site: Sangkhlaburi, Thailand (Lat 15?N, Elev 200m)
Site classification: Exurban
Sky darkness: 5,8 <Limiting magnitude>
Seeing: 10 <1-10 Seeing Scale (10 best)>
Moon presence: None - moon not in sky
Instrument: 15 inch Obsession f4,5
Magnification: 131 and 342x
Filter(s): O III
Object(s): PNG 144.3-15.5, Abell 4
Category: Planetary nebula.
Class: 
Constellation: Per
Data: mag 14,4 magv  size 25"
Position: RA 02:45.24  DEC +42:33.03
Description:
 Located near M34. Extremely faint and difficult object. At 131x visible with 
averted vision only. At 342x the structureless disk appears slightly brighter 
towards the center. Overall diameter is approx 20". The OIII filter does not 
improve the visibility of the nebula. The planetary is located roughly 1,5' NW 
of a 9mag star and 3' WNW of another 9mag star.
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From anonymous at sedna.atmob.org  Mon Nov 15 02:28:18 2004
From: anonymous at sedna.atmob.org (anonymous at sedna.atmob.org)
Date: 15 Nov 2004 07:28:18 -0000
Subject: (IAAC) Obj: IC 351 - Inst: 15 inch Obsession f4,5
Message-ID: <20041115072818.9078.qmail@sedna.atmob.org>

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Observer: Armin Hermann
Your skills: Advanced (many years)
Date/time of observation: 14 Nov 2004
Location of site: Sangkhlaburi, Thailand (Lat 15?N, Elev 200m)
Site classification: Exurban
Sky darkness: 6 <Limiting magnitude>
Seeing: 9 <1-10 Seeing Scale (10 best)>
Moon presence: None - moon not in sky
Instrument: 15 inch Obsession f4,5
Magnification: 131 and 342x
Filter(s): none
Object(s): IC 351
Category: Planetary nebula.
Class: 
Constellation: Per
Data: mag 12 magv  size 6"
Position: RA :  DEC :
Description:
Stellar at 131x magnification. 342x resolves the PN into a tiny bright and 
round disk of approx 6" diameter. No details or central star seen within the 
uniform colorless nebula. Resembles IC 2003 but it is slightly smaller and not 
as bright.

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From anonymous at sedna.atmob.org  Mon Nov 15 02:30:21 2004
From: anonymous at sedna.atmob.org (anonymous at sedna.atmob.org)
Date: 15 Nov 2004 07:30:21 -0000
Subject: (IAAC) Obj: IC 2003 - Inst: 15 inch Obsession f4,5
Message-ID: <20041115073021.9281.qmail@sedna.atmob.org>

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Observer: Armin Hermann
Your skills: Advanced (many years)
Date/time of observation: 14 Nov 2004
Location of site: Sangkhlaburi, Thailand (Lat 15?N, Elev 200m)
Site classification: Exurban
Sky darkness: 6 <Limiting magnitude>
Seeing: 9 <1-10 Seeing Scale (10 best)>
Moon presence: None - moon not in sky
Instrument: 15 inch Obsession f4,5
Magnification: 131 and 342x
Filter(s): none
Object(s): IC 2003
Category: Planetary nebula.
Class: 
Constellation: Per
Data: mag 12,5 magv  size 7"
Position: RA :  DEC :
Description:
Interestingly IC 2003 looks brighter than its neighbor IC 351 which has a 
catalogued brightness of 12,0magv and should therefore be half a magnitude 
brighter than IC 2003!  At 342x the PN shows a 7" disk that is brighter in the 
center. No central star seen. I did not see any color either.

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From anonymous at sedna.atmob.org  Mon Nov 15 02:41:21 2004
From: anonymous at sedna.atmob.org (anonymous at sedna.atmob.org)
Date: 15 Nov 2004 07:41:21 -0000
Subject: (IAAC) Obj: NGC 7008 - Inst: 15 inch Obsession f4,5
Message-ID: <20041115074121.9664.qmail@sedna.atmob.org>

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Observer: Armin Hermann
Your skills: Advanced (many years)
Date/time of observation: 14 Nov 2004
Location of site: Sangkhlaburi, Thailand (Lat 15?N, Elev 200m)
Site classification: Exurban
Sky darkness: 6 <Limiting magnitude>
Seeing: 9 <1-10 Seeing Scale (10 best)>
Moon presence: None - moon not in sky
Instrument: 15 inch Obsession f4,5
Magnification: 342x
Filter(s): none
Object(s): NGC 7008
Category: Planetary nebula.
Class: 
Constellation: Cyg
Data: mag 10,7 magv  size 83"
Position: RA :  DEC :
Description:
At 342x the nebula appears annular (extends N-S) with a size of approx 
1,2x0.8'.  The N edge of NGC 7008 is much brighter and I could see a bright 
spot at the N end of planetary. The ring looks incomplete (open to S end) and 
broken up into brighter and fainter patches of nebulosity. The center of the 
nebula appears dark. 2 fairly bright stars are embedded in the nebula, one of 
which is the 13,2mag central star. A nice yellow / blue double star is located 
at the open S-end of 7008.

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From anonymous at sedna.atmob.org  Mon Nov 15 02:56:08 2004
From: anonymous at sedna.atmob.org (anonymous at sedna.atmob.org)
Date: 15 Nov 2004 07:56:08 -0000
Subject: (IAAC) 
	Obj: NGC 1129, NGC 1130, NGC 1131, M+7-7-3, M+7-7-8 - Inst: 15 inch
	Obsession f4,5
Message-ID: <20041115075608.10087.qmail@sedna.atmob.org>

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Observer: Armin Hermann
Your skills: Advanced (many years)
Date/time of observation: 13 Nov 2004
Location of site: Sangkhlaburi, Thailand (Lat 15?N, Elev 200m)
Site classification: Exurban
Sky darkness: 5,8 <Limiting magnitude>
Seeing: 10 <1-10 Seeing Scale (10 best)>
Moon presence: None - moon not in sky
Instrument: 15 inch Obsession f4,5
Magnification: 342x
Filter(s): none
Object(s): NGC 1129, NGC 1130, NGC 1131, M+7-7-3, M+7-7-8
Category: External galaxy.
Class: 
Constellation: Per
Data: mag various  size various
Position: RA :  DEC :
Description:
Close group of several faint galaxies of which NGC 1129 (12,4mag, 2,9x2,1') and 
its companion M+7-7-3 (12,2mag, 0,3x0,2') are the easiest to observe. NGC 1130 
(15,1mag, 0,5x0,3') is visible with averted vision but surprisingly easy and 
looks like a tiny elongated oval. NGC 1131 (14,6mag, 0,4') and M+7-7-8 
(14,1mag, 1x0,6') are only very faint featureless smudges of light seen with 
averted vision. Other galaxies escaped my attention this time. Observation with 
342x magnification.
All galaxies are located within a field of 10'.

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From anonymous at sedna.atmob.org  Mon Nov 15 02:59:19 2004
From: anonymous at sedna.atmob.org (anonymous at sedna.atmob.org)
Date: 15 Nov 2004 07:59:19 -0000
Subject: (IAAC) Obj: NGC 1220 - Inst: 15 inch Obsession f4,5
Message-ID: <20041115075919.10371.qmail@sedna.atmob.org>

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Observer: Armin Hermann
Your skills: Advanced (many years)
Date/time of observation: 13 Nov 2004
Location of site: Sangkhlaburi, Thailand (Lat 15?N, Elev 200m)
Site classification: Exurban
Sky darkness: 5,8 <Limiting magnitude>
Seeing: 10 <1-10 Seeing Scale (10 best)>
Moon presence: None - moon not in sky
Instrument: 15 inch Obsession f4,5
Magnification: 131 and 342x
Filter(s): none
Object(s): NGC 1220
Category: Open cluster.
Class: 
Constellation: Per
Data: mag 11,8p  size 1,6'
Position: RA :  DEC :
Description:
Very compact cluster that resolves into about one dozen 13-15mag stars at 342x 
magnification. Lower power resolves about half the number of stars which then 
look embedded in a haze of unresolved stars. Nice.

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From anonymous at sedna.atmob.org  Mon Nov 15 03:04:25 2004
From: anonymous at sedna.atmob.org (anonymous at sedna.atmob.org)
Date: 15 Nov 2004 08:04:25 -0000
Subject: (IAAC) Obj: NGC 1365 - Inst: 15 inch Obsession f4,5
Message-ID: <20041115080425.10663.qmail@sedna.atmob.org>

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Observer: Armin Hermann
Your skills: Advanced (many years)
Date/time of observation: 13 Nov 2004
Location of site: Sangkhlaburi, Thailand (Lat 15?N, Elev 200m)
Site classification: Exurban
Sky darkness: 5,8 <Limiting magnitude>
Seeing: 10 <1-10 Seeing Scale (10 best)>
Moon presence: None - moon not in sky
Instrument: 15 inch Obsession f4,5
Magnification: 244x
Filter(s): none
Object(s): NGC 1365
Category: External galaxy.
Class: 
Constellation: For
Data: mag 9,3 magv  size 8,9x6,5'
Position: RA :  DEC :
Description:
At 244x the spiral structure is easily visible with averted vision. The galaxy 
is centered by a round 1' core from which the central bar extends into E and W 
directions. The two spiral arms are equally bright and extend N and S, though 
the arms are slightly bent. The outer edges of the spiral arms are sharp. The 
whole galaxy is embedded in a faint glow of light. Several foreground stars are 
imposed on NGC 1365. Very impressive!

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From anonymous at sedna.atmob.org  Mon Nov 15 03:17:50 2004
From: anonymous at sedna.atmob.org (anonymous at sedna.atmob.org)
Date: 15 Nov 2004 08:17:50 -0000
Subject: (IAAC) 
	Obj: NGC 1531, NGC 1532, IC 2040, IC 2041 - Inst: 15 inch Obsession
	f4,5
Message-ID: <20041115081750.11098.qmail@sedna.atmob.org>

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Observer: Armin Hermann
Your skills: Advanced (many years)
Date/time of observation: 14 Nov 2004
Location of site: Sangkhlaburi, Thailand (Lat 15?N, Elev 200m)
Site classification: Exurban
Sky darkness: 6 <Limiting magnitude>
Seeing: 9 <1-10 Seeing Scale (10 best)>
Moon presence: None - moon not in sky
Instrument: 15 inch Obsession f4,5
Magnification: 131 and 342x
Filter(s): none
Object(s): NGC 1531, NGC 1532, IC 2040, IC 2041
Category: External galaxy.
Class: 
Constellation: Eri
Data: mag various  size various
Position: RA :  DEC -33?:
Description:
NGC 1532: 9,8mag, 12,6x3'. Very bright beautiful edge-on that streches over 
approx 8x2'. The core is bright and oval. With averted vision I could see a 
bright elongated cloud (size ~1,5x0,5') close to the SW-end of the galaxy. Dark 
lane suspected (?).

1532's neighbor NGC 1531: 12,5mag, 1,3x0,7'. Located in an angle of 90? to 
1532. It is only 2' away from the bright NGC 1532. 1531 is oval and extends approx 1,5x0,7'. Apart from the two bright NGC galaxies there is a few fainter 
ones attached to the pair. 

IC 2040: 13,1mag, 1,4x0,8'. Located 20' NE of NGC 1532. It's faint but clearly 
visible at 131x as a 1x0,5' oval smudge with a slightly brighter center. 

IC 2041: 14mag, 1x0,5'. Much closer to the bright edge-on (7' ENE) but requires 
averted vision and high magnification (342x). I could not see IC 2041 using 
131x magnification. Another extremely faint member of the group - ESO359-29 - 
escaped my view as it was obviously too faint. The whole group is located at
-33? a few degrees E of the huge impressive Fornax I Cluster.

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From anonymous at sedna.atmob.org  Mon Nov 15 03:24:37 2004
From: anonymous at sedna.atmob.org (anonymous at sedna.atmob.org)
Date: 15 Nov 2004 08:24:37 -0000
Subject: (IAAC) Obj: NGC 281 - Inst: 15 inch Obsession f4,5
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Observer: Armin Hermann
Your skills: Advanced (many years)
Date/time of observation: 14 Nov 2004
Location of site: Sangkhlaburi, Thailand (Lat 15?N, Elev 200m)
Site classification: Exurban
Sky darkness: 6 <Limiting magnitude>
Seeing: 9 <1-10 Seeing Scale (10 best)>
Moon presence: None - moon not in sky
Instrument: 15 inch Obsession f4,5
Magnification: 131x
Filter(s): O III
Object(s): NGC 281
Category: Emission nebula.
Class: 
Constellation: Cas
Data: mag -  size 30x35'
Position: RA :  DEC -33?:
Description:
NGC 281 shows its full beauty when observed with an OIII filter. Barely visible 
without the filter at 131x, NGC 281 turns into a showpiece with OIII filter. It 
has the shape of a sand dune (arc) and its extension is approx 20'x25'. A dark cloud intrudes the nebula from the SW. Averted vision shows several more dark 
filaments within the nebula. Very spectacular!

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From anonymous at sedna.atmob.org  Mon Nov 15 03:31:41 2004
From: anonymous at sedna.atmob.org (anonymous at sedna.atmob.org)
Date: 15 Nov 2004 08:31:41 -0000
Subject: (IAAC) 
	Obj: NGC 1399, NGC 1404, Fornax Cluster - Inst: 15 inch Obsession
	f4,5
Message-ID: <20041115083141.11621.qmail@sedna.atmob.org>

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Observer: Armin Hermann
Your skills: Advanced (many years)
Date/time of observation: 14 Nov 2004
Location of site: Sangkhlaburi, Thailand (Lat 15?N, Elev 200m)
Site classification: Exurban
Sky darkness: 6 <Limiting magnitude>
Seeing: 9 <1-10 Seeing Scale (10 best)>
Moon presence: None - moon not in sky
Instrument: 15 inch Obsession f4,5
Magnification: 131 & 244x
Filter(s): 
Object(s): NGC 1399, NGC 1404, Fornax Cluster
Category: External galaxy.
Class: 
Constellation: For
Data: mag various  size various
Position: RA :  DEC -35?:
Description:
With the help of the Night Sky Observer's Guide I did scan through the Fornax I 
cluster. I could identify all 15 plotted galaxies and saw several more faint 
ones that are not catalogued in the Observer's Guide. The brightest of all 
cluster members are NGC 1399 and 1404 (8,8 and 9,7magv) They reminded me of M84 
and M86. Both are bright eliptical galaxies that show no details such as spiral 
structure or else. In fact - non of the members of the Fornax Cluster does show 
more than differently shaped ovals with more or less bright cores and centers. 
The overall number of galaxies I could see was around 20 in a field of 3 
degrees diameter. Some 10 members of the cluster are brighter than 12magv!

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From: emilneata at astroclubul.org (Emil Neata)
Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2004 04:59:30 +0200 (EET)
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From anonymous at sedna.atmob.org  Mon Nov 15 11:38:48 2004
From: anonymous at sedna.atmob.org (anonymous at sedna.atmob.org)
Date: 15 Nov 2004 16:38:48 -0000
Subject: (IAAC) Obj: 14 Ari - Inst: Vixen 9x63 binoculars
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Observer: St?phane Meloche
Your skills: Intermediate (some years)
Date/time of observation: 2004/11/13 2h51UT
Location of site: Ste-Catherine-de-Hatley, Qu?bec, Canada (Lat 45.4542?, Elev 316 m)
Site classification: Exurban
Sky darkness: 5,9 <Limiting magnitude>
Seeing:  <1-10 Seeing Scale (10 best)>
Moon presence: None - moon not in sky
Instrument: Vixen 9x63 binoculars
Magnification: 
Filter(s): 
Object(s): 14 Ari
Category: Multiple star.
Class: 
Constellation: Ari
Data: mag   size 
Position: RA 02:10  DEC 25:25
Description:
At 2?? N of Hamal. It's a half success since I observe only two members of the trio, the primary and the third star. The secondary is too much close and too weak to the primary star to be distinguished individually. Despite everything, 14 Ari offers an attractive sight. The primary star have a green colour and the third star is blue.
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From: anonymous at sedna.atmob.org (anonymous at sedna.atmob.org)
Date: 15 Nov 2004 16:44:02 -0000
Subject: (IAAC) Obj: 30 Ari - Inst: Vixen 9x63 binoculars
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Observer: St?phane Meloche
Your skills: Intermediate (some years)
Date/time of observation: 2004/11/13 3h26 UT
Location of site: Ste-Catherine-de-Hatley, Qu?bec, Canada (Lat 45.4542?, Elev 316 m)
Site classification: Exurban
Sky darkness: 5,9 <Limiting magnitude>
Seeing:  <1-10 Seeing Scale (10 best)>
Moon presence: None - moon not in sky
Instrument: Vixen 9x63 binoculars
Magnification: 
Filter(s): 
Object(s): 30 Ari
Category: Multiple star.
Class: 
Constellation: Ari
Data: mag   size 
Position: RA 02:37  DEC 24:40
Description:
At ~3? N of Nu Ari. Very beautiful double star whose components are very close and of comparable brightness. I distinguish well 2 small points and the contrast of colour is noticeable. The primary star have a green colour and secondary is white pale.
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From: anonymous at sedna.atmob.org (anonymous at sedna.atmob.org)
Date: 15 Nov 2004 16:52:15 -0000
Subject: (IAAC) Obj: 62 Eri - Inst: Vixen 9x63 binoculars
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Observer: St?phane Meloche
Your skills: Intermediate (some years)
Date/time of observation: 2004/11/13 3h56 UT
Location of site: Ste-Catherine-de-Hatley, Qu?bec, Canada (Lat 45.4542?, Elev 316 m)
Site classification: Exurban
Sky darkness: 5,9 <Limiting magnitude>
Seeing:  <1-10 Seeing Scale (10 best)>
Moon presence: None - moon not in sky
Instrument: Vixen 9x63 binoculars
Magnification: 
Filter(s): 
Object(s): 62 Eri
Category: Multiple star.
Class: 
Constellation: Eri
Data: mag   size 
Position: RA 04:57  DEC -05:10
Description:
At ~3? W of Cursa. In the first seconds of observation, I could not separate the components but with patience, the secondary star finally appeared to the binoculars, in spite of the great difference in magnitude between the two stars. In fact, 62 Eri is the double star separated to the 9x63 with the largest differential magnitude which is given to see until now. The primary star have a greenish colour and the secondary is too weak to give a color.
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From anonymous at sedna.atmob.org  Tue Nov 16 00:02:28 2004
From: anonymous at sedna.atmob.org (anonymous at sedna.atmob.org)
Date: 16 Nov 2004 05:02:28 -0000
Subject: (IAAC) Obj: NGC 7006 - Inst: 10" F/5.6 Dobsonian
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Observer: Brian Carter
Your skills: Intermediate (some years)
Date/time of observation: 11/14/2004
Location of site: Charlie Elliot (Lat , Elev )
Site classification: Exurban
Sky darkness: 5.0 <Limiting magnitude>
Seeing: 6 <1-10 Seeing Scale (10 best)>
Moon presence: None - moon not in sky
Instrument: 10" F/5.6 Dobsonian
Magnification: 64x  109x   203x   284x
Filter(s): 
Object(s): NGC 7006
Category: Globular cluster.
Class: B, pL, R, gbM 
Constellation: Del
Data: mag 10.6  size 2.8' 
Position: RA 21 : 01.5  DEC 16:11
Description:
Roughly 3' diameter, brightening towards the center.  Slight mottled textured appearence, reminds me of some of the smaller Messier globulars through my old 70mm refractor.  Conceptually great cluster at 135,000 light years distant, but all and all rather unremarkable. 
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From anonymous at sedna.atmob.org  Tue Nov 16 00:07:03 2004
From: anonymous at sedna.atmob.org (anonymous at sedna.atmob.org)
Date: 16 Nov 2004 05:07:03 -0000
Subject: (IAAC) Obj: NGC 6934 - Inst: 10" F/5.6 Dobsonian
Message-ID: <20041116050703.1639.qmail@sedna.atmob.org>

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Observer: Brian Carter
Your skills: Intermediate (some years)
Date/time of observation: 11/14/2004
Location of site: Charlie Elliot (Lat , Elev )
Site classification: Exurban
Sky darkness: 5.0 <Limiting magnitude>
Seeing: 6 <1-10 Seeing Scale (10 best)>
Moon presence: None - moon not in sky
Instrument: 10" F/5.6 Dobsonian
Magnification: 64x  109x   203x   284x
Filter(s): 
Object(s): NGC 6934
Category: Globular cluster.
Class: B, L, R, rrr, st 16..., *9 p
Constellation: Del
Data: mag 8.9  size 7.1'
Position: RA 20:34.2  DEC +7:24
Description:
7.1' diameter globular, occassionally a resolved star in the periphery at higher powers.  Looks very densely aggregated.  Overall a very easy target, the 13mm nagler at 109x gave the best views, but not the best resolution.  I think that gives me about 45' FOV, its framed in a nice star field.  
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From anonymous at sedna.atmob.org  Tue Nov 16 00:11:56 2004
From: anonymous at sedna.atmob.org (anonymous at sedna.atmob.org)
Date: 16 Nov 2004 05:11:56 -0000
Subject: (IAAC) Obj: NGC 6939 - Inst: 10" F/5.6 Dobsonian
Message-ID: <20041116051156.1872.qmail@sedna.atmob.org>

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Observer: Brian Carter
Your skills: Intermediate (some years)
Date/time of observation: 11/14/2004
Location of site: Charlie Elliot (Lat , Elev )
Site classification: Exurban
Sky darkness: 5.0 <Limiting magnitude>
Seeing: 6 <1-10 Seeing Scale (10 best)>
Moon presence: None - moon not in sky
Instrument: 10" F/5.6 Dobsonian
Magnification: 64x  109x   203x   284x
Filter(s): 
Object(s): NGC 6939
Category: Open cluster.
Class: Cl, pL, eRi, pCM
Constellation: Cep
Data: mag 7.8  size 8'
Position: RA 20:31.4  DEC +60:38
Description:
Beautiful open cluster, very delicate, not bright and overbearing.  Near spiral galaxy NGC 6946 which is part of the Caldwell list.  This cluster is so close that I found it first and use it as a reference point to jump to the galaxy.  To be honest, the cluster is much more intriguing.  The sky was not so transparent at the time I looked at it, but ever other time I have seen it from a dark sight I find it breathtaking.  Definately a cluster worth revisiting.
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From anonymous at sedna.atmob.org  Tue Nov 16 00:16:28 2004
From: anonymous at sedna.atmob.org (anonymous at sedna.atmob.org)
Date: 16 Nov 2004 05:16:28 -0000
Subject: (IAAC) Obj: NGC 663 - Inst: 10" F/5.6 Dobsonian
Message-ID: <20041116051628.2127.qmail@sedna.atmob.org>

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Observer: Brian Carter
Your skills: Intermediate (some years)
Date/time of observation: 11/14/2004
Location of site: Charlie Elliot (Lat , Elev )
Site classification: Exurban
Sky darkness: 5.0 <Limiting magnitude>
Seeing: 6 <1-10 Seeing Scale (10 best)>
Moon presence: None - moon not in sky
Instrument: 10" F/5.6 Dobsonian
Magnification: 64x  109x   203x   284x
Filter(s): 
Object(s): NGC 663
Category: Open cluster.
Class: Cl, B, L, eRi, st pL 
Constellation: Cas
Data: mag 7.1  size 16
Position: RA 1:46  DEC +61:15
Description:
Very fine cluster about 15' diameter, remember from a previous night with darker
skies, and it was a lot better.  Dominated by 2 pairs of bright stars, North eastern
most of the four is a tight touble.  To the north is a pretty open cluster, NGC 654,
both fit nicely into the 22 panoptics 64x field of view.  Definately worth visiting.

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From anonymous at sedna.atmob.org  Tue Nov 16 00:22:12 2004
From: anonymous at sedna.atmob.org (anonymous at sedna.atmob.org)
Date: 16 Nov 2004 05:22:12 -0000
Subject: (IAAC) Obj: m103, NGC 581 - Inst: 10" F/5.6 Dobsonian
Message-ID: <20041116052212.2385.qmail@sedna.atmob.org>

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Observer: Brian Carter
Your skills: Intermediate (some years)
Date/time of observation: 11/14/2004
Location of site: Charlie Elliot (Lat , Elev )
Site classification: Exurban
Sky darkness: 5.0 <Limiting magnitude>
Seeing: 6 <1-10 Seeing Scale (10 best)>
Moon presence: None - moon not in sky
Instrument: 10" F/5.6 Dobsonian
Magnification: 64x  109x   203x   284x
Filter(s): 
Object(s): m103, NGC 581
Category: Open cluster.
Class: Cl, pL, B, R, Ri
Constellation: Cas
Data: mag 7.4  size 6
Position: RA 1:33.2  DEC +60:42
Description:
I have passed over this cluster so many times, never really knew what it was. 
The only other time I knew I had seen m103 was with a GOTO 70mm, and it was 
durring a marathon.  Anyway....  There are five main stars forming a triangle
and many other faint stars peppering the field.  Looks like a faint nebulosity
filling in the triangle, but they are just faint stars, some resolved, some not.
The five main stars are great because of their contrasting colors.  For each far
angle of the triangle, the stars are yellow.  The two bright ones in the middle,
maybe magnitude 9?, resemble a much fainter and closer Albiero, same pretty 
blue and yellow/orange.  Very very nice.  Worth resting at.
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From anonymous at sedna.atmob.org  Tue Nov 16 00:29:04 2004
From: anonymous at sedna.atmob.org (anonymous at sedna.atmob.org)
Date: 16 Nov 2004 05:29:04 -0000
Subject: (IAAC) Obj: NGC 457 - Inst: 10" F/5.6 Dobsonian
Message-ID: <20041116052904.2670.qmail@sedna.atmob.org>

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Observer: Brian Carter
Your skills: Intermediate (some years)
Date/time of observation: 11/14/2004
Location of site: Charlie Elliot (Lat , Elev )
Site classification: Exurban
Sky darkness: 5.0 <Limiting magnitude>
Seeing: 6 <1-10 Seeing Scale (10 best)>
Moon presence: None - moon not in sky
Instrument: 10" F/5.6 Dobsonian
Magnification: 64x  109x   203x   284x
Filter(s): 
Object(s): NGC 457
Category: Open cluster.
Class: Cl, B, L, pRi, st 7, 8, 10 
Constellation: Cas
Data: mag 6.4  size 13
Position: RA 1:19.1  DEC +58:20
Description:
Phi Cas Cluster.  The best view is with the 22mm Panoptic at 64x, gives a little over a degree fov.
Nicknamed the ET cluster, becuase it resembles the famous 1980's alien.
Open cluster about 15' in diameter.  To me it is an almost perfect replica
of the Gemini constelation.  the 2 dominant stars, maybe 8-9 mag, are in the 
same position as Castor and Pollux.  Other stars make up the respective legs
and arms of the twins.  There are a number of 'dark' red stars, like dim
carbon stars.  This is one of my favorite clusters, really stimulates the imagination.

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From anonymous at sedna.atmob.org  Tue Nov 16 00:34:31 2004
From: anonymous at sedna.atmob.org (anonymous at sedna.atmob.org)
Date: 16 Nov 2004 05:34:31 -0000
Subject: (IAAC) Obj: M36 - Inst: 10" F/5.6 Dobsonian
Message-ID: <20041116053431.3029.qmail@sedna.atmob.org>

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Observer: Brian Carter
Your skills: Intermediate (some years)
Date/time of observation: 11/14/2004
Location of site: Charlie Elliot (Lat , Elev )
Site classification: Exurban
Sky darkness: 5.0 <Limiting magnitude>
Seeing: 6 <1-10 Seeing Scale (10 best)>
Moon presence: None - moon not in sky
Instrument: 10" F/5.6 Dobsonian
Magnification: 64x  109x   203x   284x
Filter(s): 
Object(s): M36
Category: Open cluster.
Class: Cl, B, vL, vRi, lC
Constellation: Aur
Data: mag 6.0  size 12
Position: RA 5:36.1  DEC +34:08
Description:
Smallest of the 3 Messiers in Auriga.  I counted easily 50 stars, dominated
by a close double.  Shape is reminiscent of a sprawling frog, or maybe a dragonfly,
funny what one will see staring at these clusters.  It is unfortunate that this
cluster will be inevitably overshadowed by m37 and m38, but it really is a beautiful
cluster in its own right.  It's one of those clusters that really lends itself
to aperture well.
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From anonymous at sedna.atmob.org  Tue Nov 16 00:39:52 2004
From: anonymous at sedna.atmob.org (anonymous at sedna.atmob.org)
Date: 16 Nov 2004 05:39:52 -0000
Subject: (IAAC) Obj: M37 - Inst: 10" F/5.6 Dobsonian
Message-ID: <20041116053952.3271.qmail@sedna.atmob.org>

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Observer: Brian Carter
Your skills: Intermediate (some years)
Date/time of observation: 11/14/2004
Location of site: Charlie Elliot (Lat , Elev )
Site classification: Exurban
Sky darkness: 5.0 <Limiting magnitude>
Seeing: 6 <1-10 Seeing Scale (10 best)>
Moon presence: None - moon not in sky
Instrument: 10" F/5.6 Dobsonian
Magnification: 64x  109x   203x   284x
Filter(s): 
Object(s): M37
Category: Open cluster.
Class: Cl, Ri, pCM, st L & S
Constellation: Aur
Data: mag 5.6  size 24
Position: RA 5:52.4  DEC 32:33
Description:
This cluster is framed so well by the background stars.  I wrote down that it was
easily 45' in diameter, it filled my 13mm nagler at 109x, but SEDS puts the
diameter at half that.  This was the first time I saw this cluster with my
ten inch.  It reminds me of the first time I saw M11 with an instrument of any
aperture; very beautiful and round, a black background sprinkled with salt.  There are 2 m20 like dustlanes  crossing through the center.  At the cross
is a red star.  It sounds like an old open cluster cliche, but it really is reminiscent
of a ruby in a pile of diamonds.
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From anonymous at sedna.atmob.org  Tue Nov 16 00:43:04 2004
From: anonymous at sedna.atmob.org (anonymous at sedna.atmob.org)
Date: 16 Nov 2004 05:43:04 -0000
Subject: (IAAC) Obj: M38 - Inst: 10" F/5.6 Dobsonian
Message-ID: <20041116054304.3496.qmail@sedna.atmob.org>

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Observer: Brian Carter
Your skills: Intermediate (some years)
Date/time of observation: 11/14/2004
Location of site: Charlie Elliot (Lat , Elev )
Site classification: Exurban
Sky darkness: 5.0 <Limiting magnitude>
Seeing: 6 <1-10 Seeing Scale (10 best)>
Moon presence: None - moon not in sky
Instrument: 10" F/5.6 Dobsonian
Magnification: 64x  109x   203x   284x
Filter(s): 
Object(s): M38
Category: Open cluster.
Class: Cl, Ri, pCM, st L & S
Constellation: Aur
Data: mag 6.4  size 21
Position: RA 5:28.7  DEC +35:50
Description:
Reminds me of the shape of the Rosette nebula, with dark globules in the center, 
radiating chains and designs.  Easy to let the immagination play around
with this one.  There is an orange/yellow star dominating
the center, alone.  There is a smaller fainter cluster to the south, only
15'-20' away, only slightly resolved at 64x.  They both fith nicely
together in the 22 panoptic, and make a beautiful apir.
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From anonymous at sedna.atmob.org  Tue Nov 16 11:14:32 2004
From: anonymous at sedna.atmob.org (anonymous at sedna.atmob.org)
Date: 16 Nov 2004 16:14:32 -0000
Subject: (IAAC) Obj: NGC 1395 - Inst: Vixen 9x63 binoculars
Message-ID: <20041116161432.13350.qmail@sedna.atmob.org>

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Observation Poster: St?phane Meloche <stephanemeloche at videotron.ca>

Observer: St?phane Meloche
Your skills: Intermediate (some years)
Date/time of observation: 2004/11/13 04h42 UT
Location of site: Ste-Catherine-de-Hatley, Qu?bec, Canada (Lat 45.4542?, Elev 316 m)
Site classification: Exurban
Sky darkness: 5,9 <Limiting magnitude>
Seeing:  <1-10 Seeing Scale (10 best)>
Moon presence: None - moon not in sky
Instrument: Vixen 9x63 binoculars
Magnification: 
Filter(s): 
Object(s): NGC 1395
Category: External galaxy.
Class: E3
Constellation: Eri
Data: mag 9.6  size 5.6x4.6
Position: RA 03:39  DEC -23:02
Description:
In Eridani, form an isosceles triangle with the stars tau5 Eri and tau6 Eri, the galaxy forming the top of this triangle and pointing in the S-W direction. Galaxy of low dimension but presenting a very bright center and a small halo around. Similar to the most brilliant elliptic galaxies in Virgo. Visible with averted vision, the center of the galaxy is really bright and could easily confuse NGC 1395 with a weak star.
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From: anonymous at sedna.atmob.org (anonymous at sedna.atmob.org)
Date: 16 Nov 2004 16:21:08 -0000
Subject: (IAAC) Obj: NGC 1232 - Inst: Vixen 9x63 binoculars
Message-ID: <20041116162108.13719.qmail@sedna.atmob.org>

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Observer: St?phane Meloche
Your skills: Intermediate (some years)
Date/time of observation: 2004/11/13 04h55 UT
Location of site: Ste-Catherine-de-Hatley, Qu?bec, Canada (Lat 45.4542?, Elev 316 m)
Site classification: Exurban
Sky darkness: 5,9 <Limiting magnitude>
Seeing:  <1-10 Seeing Scale (10 best)>
Moon presence: None - moon not in sky
Instrument: Vixen 9x63 binoculars
Magnification: 
Filter(s): 
Object(s): NGC 1232
Category: External galaxy.
Class: SABc
Constellation: Eri
Data: mag 9.9  size 7.1x6.3
Position: RA 03:10  DEC -20:35
Description:
In Eridani, at 2?? NW of tau4 Eri. Galaxy of low size and stellar in apparence. At the beginning, I was not sure of my observation because of a star very close magnitude 9,2 (HD 19744). However, the description of the galaxy on my verbatim indicates that, by alternating direct/averted vision, the objet appears and disappears successively, which is sufficient to generally confirm the observation.
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From anonymous at sedna.atmob.org  Tue Nov 16 11:25:05 2004
From: anonymous at sedna.atmob.org (anonymous at sedna.atmob.org)
Date: 16 Nov 2004 16:25:05 -0000
Subject: (IAAC) Obj: Gamma Lep - Inst: Vixen 9x63 binoculars
Message-ID: <20041116162505.13954.qmail@sedna.atmob.org>

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Observer: St?phane Meloche
Your skills: Intermediate (some years)
Date/time of observation: 2004/11/14 05h18 UT
Location of site: Ste-Catherine-de-Hatley, Qu?bec, Canada (Lat 45.4542?, Elev 316 m)
Site classification: Exurban
Sky darkness: 5,9 <Limiting magnitude>
Seeing:  <1-10 Seeing Scale (10 best)>
Moon presence: None - moon not in sky
Instrument: Vixen 9x63 binoculars
Magnification: 
Filter(s): 
Object(s): Gamma Lep
Category: Multiple star.
Class: 
Constellation: Lep
Data: mag   size 
Position: RA 05:45  DEC -22:26
Description:
At ~4? SE of Nihal. Very beautiful double star, easy to split even if the difference in magnitude between the components is high. The angular seperation between the two components makes it possible to easily distinguish them with 9x. The primary star is of color white-green and secondary is blue (uncertain).
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From anonymous at sedna.atmob.org  Tue Nov 16 11:28:58 2004
From: anonymous at sedna.atmob.org (anonymous at sedna.atmob.org)
Date: 16 Nov 2004 16:28:58 -0000
Subject: (IAAC) Obj: M79 - Inst: Vixen 9x63 binoculars
Message-ID: <20041116162858.14284.qmail@sedna.atmob.org>

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Observer: St?phane Meloche
Your skills: Intermediate (some years)
Date/time of observation: 2004/11/14 05h26 UT
Location of site: Ste-Catherine-de-Hatley, Qu?bec, Canada (Lat 45.4542?, Elev 316 m)
Site classification: Exurban
Sky darkness: 5,9 <Limiting magnitude>
Seeing:  <1-10 Seeing Scale (10 best)>
Moon presence: None - moon not in sky
Instrument: Vixen 9x63 binoculars
Magnification: 
Filter(s): 
Object(s): M79
Category: Globular cluster.
Class: V
Constellation: Lep
Data: mag 8.4  size 7.8'
Position: RA 05:24  DEC -24:31
Description:
In Lepus, at ~ ? ? NW of a 5.5 magnitude star (SAO 170351). Globular cluster of small size. Averted vision doesn't help much to improve the objet, which seems to present a strong degree of concentration. Moreover, M79 does not show a bright center.
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From anonymous at sedna.atmob.org  Tue Nov 16 23:24:34 2004
From: anonymous at sedna.atmob.org (anonymous at sedna.atmob.org)
Date: 17 Nov 2004 04:24:34 -0000
Subject: (IAAC) Obj: 33 Ari - Negative report - Inst: Vixen 9x63 binoculars
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Observer: St?phane Meloche
Your skills: Intermediate (some years)
Date/time of observation: 2004/11/13 03h08 UT
Location of site: Ste-Catherine-de-Hatley, Qu?bec, Canada (Lat 45.4542?, Elev 316 m)
Site classification: Exurban
Sky darkness: 5,9 <Limiting magnitude>
Seeing:  <1-10 Seeing Scale (10 best)>
Moon presence: None - moon not in sky
Instrument: Vixen 9x63 binoculars
Magnification: 
Filter(s): 
Object(s): 33 Ari - Negative report
Category: Multiple star.
Class: 
Constellation: Ari
Data: mag   size 
Position: RA 02:41  DEC 27:05
Description:
At 2?? NE of 30 Ari. I have little chances to distinguish each member separately, but I tried despite everything. The secondary and primary stars and have too great difference in magnitudes to be separate at 9x. The primary star is white.
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From anonymous at sedna.atmob.org  Tue Nov 16 23:28:02 2004
From: anonymous at sedna.atmob.org (anonymous at sedna.atmob.org)
Date: 17 Nov 2004 04:28:02 -0000
Subject: (IAAC) Obj: Keid (omicron2) - Inst: Vixen 9x63 binoculars
Message-ID: <20041117042802.22879.qmail@sedna.atmob.org>

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Observer: St?phane Meloche
Your skills: Intermediate (some years)
Date/time of observation: 2004/11/14 03h49 UT
Location of site: Ste-Catherine-de-Hatley, Qu?bec, Canada (Lat 45.4542?, Elev 316 m)
Site classification: Exurban
Sky darkness: 5,9 <Limiting magnitude>
Seeing:  <1-10 Seeing Scale (10 best)>
Moon presence: None - moon not in sky
Instrument: Vixen 9x63 binoculars
Magnification: 
Filter(s): 
Object(s): Keid (omicron2)
Category: Multiple star.
Class: 
Constellation: Eri
Data: mag   size 
Position: RA 04:16  DEC -07:38
Description:
Forms a beautiful naked eye duet with its neighbor, Beid (omicron1 Eri). Still here, the great variation in magnitude between the components is too great to distinguish them individually. The primary star is yellowish.
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From anonymous at sedna.atmob.org  Tue Nov 16 23:30:49 2004
From: anonymous at sedna.atmob.org (anonymous at sedna.atmob.org)
Date: 17 Nov 2004 04:30:49 -0000
Subject: (IAAC) Obj: 66 Eri - Negative report - Inst: Vixen 9x63 binoculars
Message-ID: <20041117043049.23128.qmail@sedna.atmob.org>

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Observer: St?phane Meloche
Your skills: Intermediate (some years)
Date/time of observation: 2004/11/14 04h02 UT
Location of site: Ste-Catherine-de-Hatley, Qu?bec, Canada (Lat 45.4542?, Elev 316 m)
Site classification: Exurban
Sky darkness: 5,9 <Limiting magnitude>
Seeing:  <1-10 Seeing Scale (10 best)>
Moon presence: None - moon not in sky
Instrument: Vixen 9x63 binoculars
Magnification: 
Filter(s): 
Object(s): 66 Eri - Negative report
Category: Multiple star.
Class: 
Constellation: Eri
Data: mag   size 
Position: RA 05:07  DEC -04:39
Description:
At ? ? NW of Cursa. I distinguish only the primary star, the secondary is too weak and too close to be observed individually. The primary star is white.
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From anonymous at sedna.atmob.org  Tue Nov 16 23:33:56 2004
From: anonymous at sedna.atmob.org (anonymous at sedna.atmob.org)
Date: 17 Nov 2004 04:33:56 -0000
Subject: (IAAC) 
	Obj: NGC 1291 - Negative report - Inst: Vixen 9x63 binoculars
Message-ID: <20041117043356.23343.qmail@sedna.atmob.org>

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Observer: St?phane Meloche
Your skills: Intermediate (some years)
Date/time of observation: 2004/11/14 04h34 UT
Location of site: Ste-Catherine-de-Hatley, Qu?bec, Canada (Lat 45.4542?, Elev 316 m)
Site classification: Exurban
Sky darkness: 5,9 <Limiting magnitude>
Seeing:  <1-10 Seeing Scale (10 best)>
Moon presence: None - moon not in sky
Instrument: Vixen 9x63 binoculars
Magnification: 
Filter(s): 
Object(s): NGC 1291 - Negative report
Category: External galaxy.
Class: SB
Constellation: Eri
Data: mag 8.5  size 9.7x8.4
Position: RA 03:17  DEC -41:06
Description:
In Eridani, with 3?? E of Acamar and only 4? above the horizon. The atmospheric conditions are not excellent in this portion of the sky and what's why this bright galaxy not appeared.
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From anonymous at sedna.atmob.org  Tue Nov 16 23:36:18 2004
From: anonymous at sedna.atmob.org (anonymous at sedna.atmob.org)
Date: 17 Nov 2004 04:36:18 -0000
Subject: (IAAC) 
	Obj: NGC 1407 - Negative report - Inst: Vixen 9x63 binoculars
Message-ID: <20041117043618.23547.qmail@sedna.atmob.org>

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Observer: St?phane Meloche
Your skills: Intermediate (some years)
Date/time of observation: 2004/11/14 04h49 UT
Location of site: Ste-Catherine-de-Hatley, Qu?bec, Canada (Lat 45.4542?, Elev 316 m)
Site classification: Exurban
Sky darkness: 5,9 <Limiting magnitude>
Seeing:  <1-10 Seeing Scale (10 best)>
Moon presence: None - moon not in sky
Instrument: Vixen 9x63 binoculars
Magnification: 
Filter(s): 
Object(s): NGC 1407 - Negative report
Category: External galaxy.
Class: E0
Constellation: Eri
Data: mag 9.7  size 4.9x4.5
Position: RA 03:40  DEC -18:35
Description:
In Eridani, at ~3?? NW of tau5 Eri. Per periods, it seems me to see an object very slightly luminous at the right sport but the object is too weak in brightness to regard this object as truly observed.
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From anonymous at sedna.atmob.org  Tue Nov 16 23:39:39 2004
From: anonymous at sedna.atmob.org (anonymous at sedna.atmob.org)
Date: 17 Nov 2004 04:39:39 -0000
Subject: (IAAC) 
	Obj: NGC 1532 - Negative report - Inst: Vixen 9x63 binoculars
Message-ID: <20041117043939.23800.qmail@sedna.atmob.org>

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Observer: St?phane Meloche
Your skills: Intermediate (some years)
Date/time of observation: 2004/11/14 05h02 UT
Location of site: Ste-Catherine-de-Hatley, Qu?bec, Canada (Lat 45.4542?, Elev 316 m)
Site classification: Exurban
Sky darkness: 5,9 <Limiting magnitude>
Seeing:  <1-10 Seeing Scale (10 best)>
Moon presence: None - moon not in sky
Instrument: Vixen 9x63 binoculars
Magnification: 
Filter(s): 
Object(s): NGC 1532 - Negative report
Category: External galaxy.
Class: Sb
Constellation: Eri
Data: mag 9.9  size 11.6x3.4
Position: RA 04:12  DEC -32:52
Description:
In Eridani, at 1?? NW of upsilon4 Eri. To help me in this observation, I have noted that NGC 1532 is located at a few minutes E of a magnitude 7 star (HD 26799). Unfortunately, the conditions of this night do not allow good observations below 10? of altitude and the galaxy is at ~7? above the horizon. As expected, nothing appeared at the binoculars.
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From anonymous at sedna.atmob.org  Wed Nov 17 00:54:07 2004
From: anonymous at sedna.atmob.org (anonymous at sedna.atmob.org)
Date: 17 Nov 2004 05:54:07 -0000
Subject: (IAAC) 
	Obj: M31, Globular & Open Clusters in M31 - Inst: 15 inch Obsession
	f4,5
Message-ID: <20041117055407.24812.qmail@sedna.atmob.org>

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Observer: Armin Hermann
Your skills: Advanced (many years)
Date/time of observation: 16 Nov 2004
Location of site: Sangkhlaburi, Thailand (Lat 15?N, Elev 200m)
Site classification: Exurban
Sky darkness: 5,5 <Limiting magnitude>
Seeing: 10 <1-10 Seeing Scale (10 best)>
Moon presence: None - moon not in sky
Instrument: 15 inch Obsession f4,5
Magnification: 131 & 342x
Filter(s): none
Object(s): M31, Globular & Open Clusters in M31
Category: External galaxy.
Class: 
Constellation: And
Data: mag various  size various
Position: RA :  DEC :
Description:
On 16/17 11 04 I took the chance of perfect seeing and fairly good visibility 
to hunt for extragalactic globular clusters and open clusters in M31. As 
reference I did use a picture of M31 in the Night Sky Observer?s Guide. 43 
GCs, OCs and stellar Associations are plotted on that map. The visual 
brightness of the objects I took from the Internet. 

On earlier occasions I did experience that perfect seeing is much more 
important to possible resolution of faint stars and almost stellar objects than 
very clear skies with medium to bad seeing. Seeing last night was better than 
1? and naked eye limit approx 5,5mag. M31 was very high in the sky (~60+?
during my observations).

In order to describe the level of difficulty for observing single objects, I 
created a 5-level scale: (1) direct vision, easy, (2) direct vision, difficult, 
averted vision very easy, (3) averted vision only but fairly easy (4) averted 
vision only, difficult, (5) averted vision only and temporarily, extremely 
difficult.

All observations were done with my 15? f4,5 Obsession scope with 5mm 
Nagler T6 eyepiece (342x magnification). To locate the area of the objects I 
did use the Nagler 13mm (131x).

G64:  (5), 00 40,5 +41 22 02,3, V 15,1  extremely faint and stellar. Seen with 
AV (averted vision) only.

G72:  (5), 00 40 52,8 +41 18 54,2, V 15,0  just like G64, stellar and extremely 
faint. AV only.

G73:  (2), 00 40,9 +41 41 15, V 15,0  just non-stellar, very faint but directly 
seen.

G76:  (1), 00 41,1 +40 36 3,6, V 14,2  very easy, directly visible as a stellar 
object. With AV it turns into a non-stellar smudge. Bright.

G87:  (5), 00 41 14,7 +40 55 52, V 15,6  most difficult of all objects seen. I 
could glimpse it only 4,5 times in 10 minutes. I could not confirm whether G87 
was stellar or non-stellar. 

G119: (4-5), 00 41,9 +40 47 2,7, V 15,0  stellar, very difficult with averted 
vision (AV).

G156: (5), 00 42 25,3 +40 57 18, V 15,6  stellar and very faint with AV.

G213: (3), 00 43,2 +41 07 2,5, V 14,7  non stellar smudge without core, fairly 
easy with AV.

G226: (4), 00 43 30,3 +41 38 56, V 15,5  non-stellar smudge with averted 
vision, on the edge of visibility.

G244: (5), 00 43,8 +41 37 2,6, V 15,4  pops up only temporarily with averted 
vision, extremely faint, stellar.

G252: (3), (?) features a stellar core and a halo that was seen with averted 
vision. Fairly easy.

G279: (5), 00 44,5 +41 29 2,9, V 15,4  extremely faint smudge with no central 
brightening or stellar core. ~3?. AV only.

G280: (1), 00 44,5 +41 22 2,5, V 14,2  easy, stellar, could be seen directly.

C107: (3-4), 00 40,5 +40 36, 4-5? size. No distinct core. Biggest of all 
observed objects. AV only, not too difficult.

C202: (4), 00 42,1 +40 57, stellar and difficult with AV.

C410: (5), 00 44,4 +41 21, extremely faint 3-4? smudge of light. AV only. 
Barely visible.

It should be noted that the observed size of objects described as ?non-stellar? 
or as ?smudge? was never more than approx 2-3?. It is almost impossible to tell 
the size when an object is so extremely faint and visible only with averted 
vision. Therefore a simple description as ?non-stellar? is all that can be 
determined.
I was amazed who far I could push my 15 inch scope to the limit under last 
night?s conditions.


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From anonymous at sedna.atmob.org  Wed Nov 17 11:19:55 2004
From: anonymous at sedna.atmob.org (anonymous at sedna.atmob.org)
Date: 17 Nov 2004 16:19:55 -0000
Subject: (IAAC) Obj: NGC 7332, NGC 7339 - Inst: 15 inch Obsession f4,5
Message-ID: <20041117161955.3469.qmail@sedna.atmob.org>

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Observer: Armin Hermann
Your skills: Advanced (many years)
Date/time of observation: 16 Nov 2004
Location of site: Sangkhlaburi, Thailand (Lat 15?N, Elev 200m)
Site classification: Exurban
Sky darkness: 5,5 <Limiting magnitude>
Seeing: 10 <1-10 Seeing Scale (10 best)>
Moon presence: None - moon not in sky
Instrument: 15 inch Obsession f4,5
Magnification: 131 & 342x
Filter(s): 
Object(s): NGC 7332, NGC 7339
Category: External galaxy.
Class: 
Constellation: Peg
Data: mag 11,1 and 12,2magv  size 3,7x1 and 2,6x0,8
Position: RA :  DEC :
Description:
Beautiful pair of edge-on galaxies! 7332 shows a bright almost stellar core in 
an eliptical center (0,5x0,2'). The halo is elongated roughly N-S and extends 
approx 2,5x0,7'. A prominent 10mag star is located just 2' S of NGC 7332. In 
contrast to 7332 its neighbor NGC 7339 is not much smaller but rather faint in appearance. It is slightly thinner than 7332 but about the same length. I did 
not see any sign of a nucleus and the galaxy's core is very faint and 
elongated. The full length of the halo can only be glimpsed with averted 
vision. NGC 7339 is elongated E-W and located just 5' W of its bright companion 
7332. Observations with 131x and 342x magnification.

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From anonymous at sedna.atmob.org  Wed Nov 17 11:23:55 2004
From: anonymous at sedna.atmob.org (anonymous at sedna.atmob.org)
Date: 17 Nov 2004 16:23:55 -0000
Subject: (IAAC) 
	Obj: NGC 7463, NGC 7464, NGC 7465 - Inst: 15 inch Obsession f4,5
Message-ID: <20041117162355.3713.qmail@sedna.atmob.org>

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Observer: Armin Hermann
Your skills: Advanced (many years)
Date/time of observation: 16 Nov 2004
Location of site: Sangkhlaburi, Thailand (Lat 15?N, Elev 200m)
Site classification: Exurban
Sky darkness: 5,5 <Limiting magnitude>
Seeing: 10 <1-10 Seeing Scale (10 best)>
Moon presence: None - moon not in sky
Instrument: 15 inch Obsession f4,5
Magnification: 131 & 342x
Filter(s): none
Object(s): NGC 7463, NGC 7464, NGC 7465
Category: External galaxy.
Class: 
Constellation: Peg
Data: mag various  size various
Position: RA :  DEC :
Description:
131x magnification does show only NGC 7463 and 7465. 7463 (13,2magv) is a 
faint, SW-NE elongated oval of 2x0,7' size. It is brighter towards the center 
but does not show a nucleus. NGC 7465 (12,6magv) is bright with a prominent 
tiny nucleus. It is elongated NW-SE and extends over 1,2x0,7'. Tiny, faint NGC 7464 (13,3magv) does only show up at 342x magnification as a featureless 0,5' 
smudge of light. This trio of galaxies is located within a circle of ~5'. Just 
2' SW of 7463 an 8mag star blazes its light over the group of faint galaxies. 
The light of that star does disturb the observation of the 2 fainter members of the trio a little bit.

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From anonymous at sedna.atmob.org  Wed Nov 17 12:04:29 2004
From: anonymous at sedna.atmob.org (anonymous at sedna.atmob.org)
Date: 17 Nov 2004 17:04:29 -0000
Subject: (IAAC) Obj: NGC 55 - Inst: 15 inch Obsession f4,5
Message-ID: <20041117170429.5690.qmail@sedna.atmob.org>

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Observer: Armin Hermann
Your skills: Advanced (many years)
Date/time of observation: 12 Nov 2004
Location of site: Sangkhlaburi, Thailand (Lat 15?09' N, Elev 200m)
Site classification: Exurban
Sky darkness: 5,6 <Limiting magnitude>
Seeing: 9+ <1-10 Seeing Scale (10 best)>
Moon presence: None - moon not in sky
Instrument: 15 inch Obsession f4,5
Magnification: 131x
Filter(s): 
Object(s): NGC 55
Category: External galaxy.
Class: 
Constellation: Scl
Data: mag 8,1  size 30x6,5'
Position: RA :  DEC :
Description:
This huge edge-on (observed size: 25'x5') does almost fill the FOV from one end 
to the other at 131x magnification!  The bright elongated center is offset to 
the W. Just E of that bright part there is a smaller round cloud that pops into 
view easily. Other detail is a bit more difficult to see but with averted 
vision the galaxy shows a good number of bright clouds and dark rifts. Several 
foreground stars are dotted in front of the galaxy. NGC 55 has a surprisingly 
high surface brightness. Very nice!


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From anonymous at sedna.atmob.org  Thu Nov 18 06:34:05 2004
From: anonymous at sedna.atmob.org (anonymous at sedna.atmob.org)
Date: 18 Nov 2004 11:34:05 -0000
Subject: (IAAC) Obj: NGC 6826 - Inst: 120mm f/8.3 refractor
Message-ID: <20041118113405.25449.qmail@sedna.atmob.org>

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Observer: Diego Gonz?lez
Your skills: Intermediate (some years)
Date/time of observation: 17/11/2004 19:06 UT
Location of site: Llanera - Asturias, Spain (Lat 43? 26' N, Elev 300m)
Site classification: Suburban
Sky darkness: 5.1 <Limiting magnitude>
Seeing: 6 <1-10 Seeing Scale (10 best)>
Moon presence: Minor - crescent or far from object
Instrument: 120mm f/8.3 refractor
Magnification: 31x, 50x, 80x, 100x, 167x
Filter(s): Astronomik UHC
Object(s): NGC 6826
Category: Planetary nebula.
Class: 
Constellation: Cyg
Data: mag 8.8  size 25"
Position: RA 19:45  DEC +50:31
Description:
Near the double star 16 Cygni; I can see both star and planetary sharing the 
same field of my lowest power eyepiece (Pl?ssl 32mm). Even with that eyepiece 
(31x) the nebula appears as a small unfosused star. The disk is clearly seen 
at 80x, but 167x give the best view. The central star is easily seen; the 
nebula has a round shape and a pale blue color. The UHC filter makes it
brighter and easier to see.

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From anonymous at sedna.atmob.org  Thu Nov 18 06:51:00 2004
From: anonymous at sedna.atmob.org (anonymous at sedna.atmob.org)
Date: 18 Nov 2004 11:51:00 -0000
Subject: (IAAC) Obj: NGC 7027 - Inst: 120mm f/8.3 refractor
Message-ID: <20041118115100.25907.qmail@sedna.atmob.org>

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Observer: Diego Gonz?lez
Your skills: Intermediate (some years)
Date/time of observation: 17/11/2004 19:45 UT
Location of site: Llanera - Asturias, Spain (Lat 43? 26' N, Elev 300m)
Site classification: Suburban
Sky darkness: 5.1 <Limiting magnitude>
Seeing: 6 <1-10 Seeing Scale (10 best)>
Moon presence: Minor - crescent or far from object
Instrument: 120mm f/8.3 refractor
Magnification: 31x, 50x, 80x, 100x, 167x
Filter(s): None
Object(s): NGC 7027
Category: Planetary nebula.
Class: 
Constellation: Cyg
Data: mag 8.5  size 14"
Position: RA 21:07  DEC 42:14
Description:
I found this tiny planetary 1? 45' south from the star Xi Cygni. It has an 
stellar appearance with low powers, but disk starts to be seen at 100x. Best 
seen at 167x. The planetary is very small and very bright, and its bluish 
color is easy to see. In the moments of best seeing I can see an elongation on 
the nebula following the North-South direction (approximately).

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From anonymous at sedna.atmob.org  Thu Nov 18 07:35:30 2004
From: anonymous at sedna.atmob.org (anonymous at sedna.atmob.org)
Date: 18 Nov 2004 12:35:30 -0000
Subject: (IAAC) 
	Obj: NGC 6992, NGC 6995 (Veil nebula) - Inst: 120mm f/8.3 refractor
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Observer: Diego Gonz?lez
Your skills: Intermediate (some years)
Date/time of observation: 17/11/2004 20:17 UT
Location of site: Llanera - Asturias, Spain (Lat 43? 26' N, Elev 300m)
Site classification: Suburban
Sky darkness: 5.1 <Limiting magnitude>
Seeing: 6 <1-10 Seeing Scale (10 best)>
Moon presence: Minor - crescent or far from object
Instrument: 120mm f/8.3 refractor
Magnification: 31x
Filter(s): Astronomik UHC
Object(s): NGC 6992, NGC 6995 (Veil nebula)
Category: Supernova remnant.
Class: 
Constellation: Cyg
Data: mag 7?  size 60' x 7'
Position: RA 20:56  DEC +31:43
Description:
This is the first time I can see this famous nebula. Using a star chart I 
found the field where the nebula is, but couldn't see any nebulosity. With the 
UHC filter it's a different thing! Now I can see a milky area, crossing the 
field form North to South, with a curved shape and fuzzy appearance. It has a 
width of about 10' or 15' and a longitude of more than 1.5  degree. The 
densest part (and also the widest) is the southern zone (NGC 6995). The 
northern portion is much narrower and longer. The nebula is surrounded by few 
7th magnitude stars (the brightest one is HD199055, 6.9 magnitude).

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From anonymous at sedna.atmob.org  Fri Nov 19 04:43:20 2004
From: anonymous at sedna.atmob.org (anonymous at sedna.atmob.org)
Date: 19 Nov 2004 09:43:20 -0000
Subject: (IAAC) Obj: IC 348 - Inst: 15 inch Obsession f4,5
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Observer: Armin Hermann
Your skills: Advanced (many years)
Date/time of observation: 18-19 Nov 2004
Location of site: Sangkhlaburi, Thailand (Lat 15?09' N, Elev 200m)
Site classification: Exurban
Sky darkness: 6,2 <Limiting magnitude>
Seeing: 9+ <1-10 Seeing Scale (10 best)>
Moon presence: None - moon not in sky
Instrument: 15 inch Obsession f4,5
Magnification: 131x
Filter(s): none
Object(s): IC 348
Category: Reflection nebula.
Class: 
Constellation: Per
Data: mag -  size -
Position: RA :  DEC :
Description:
 Fairly bright reflection nebula around a prominent 8mag star. At least a dozen 
more stars are embedded in the 6x4' glow as well. Just S of the large nebula is 
another small, round 1' reflection nebula around a 9mag star. The glare of 
3,8mag Omicron Persei disturbs the obsrevation of IC348 a bit. Observation with 
131x magnification.

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From anonymous at sedna.atmob.org  Fri Nov 19 04:47:11 2004
From: anonymous at sedna.atmob.org (anonymous at sedna.atmob.org)
Date: 19 Nov 2004 09:47:11 -0000
Subject: (IAAC) Obj: NGC 1465 - Inst: 15 inch Obsession f4,5
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Observer: Armin Hermann
Your skills: Advanced (many years)
Date/time of observation: 18-19 Nov 2004
Location of site: Sangkhlaburi, Thailand (Lat 15?09' N, Elev 200m)
Site classification: Exurban
Sky darkness: 6,2 <Limiting magnitude>
Seeing: 9+ <1-10 Seeing Scale (10 best)>
Moon presence: None - moon not in sky
Instrument: 15 inch Obsession f4,5
Magnification: 342x
Filter(s): none
Object(s): NGC 1465
Category: External galaxy.
Class: 
Constellation: Per
Data: mag 13,7magv  size 1,7x0,5'
Position: RA :  DEC :
Description:
Faint edge-on galaxy near IC 348. At 342x the galaxy shows a very faint stellar 
nucleus embedded in a brighter core of 20" diameter. The very faint halo 
extends N-S over 1,5x0,5' and requires averted vision. NGC 1465 is located 
between two faint stars, ~14 and 15mag, that almost touch the S and N-end of 
the galaxy.

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From: anonymous at sedna.atmob.org (anonymous at sedna.atmob.org)
Date: 19 Nov 2004 09:51:19 -0000
Subject: (IAAC) Obj: NGC 1491 - Inst: 15 inch Obsession f4,5
Message-ID: <20041119095119.15523.qmail@sedna.atmob.org>

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Observer: Armin Hermann
Your skills: Advanced (many years)
Date/time of observation: 18-19 Nov 2004
Location of site: Sangkhlaburi, Thailand (Lat 15?09' N, Elev 200m)
Site classification: Exurban
Sky darkness: 6,2 <Limiting magnitude>
Seeing: 9+ <1-10 Seeing Scale (10 best)>
Moon presence: None - moon not in sky
Instrument: 15 inch Obsession f4,5
Magnification: 131x
Filter(s): O III
Object(s): NGC 1491
Category: Emission nebula.
Class: 
Constellation: Per
Data: mag --  size 7x5'
Position: RA :  DEC :
Description:
Bright, small galactic nebula located just W of an 8,5mag star. The nebula 
responds very well to the OIII filter and shows a lot of detail at 131x 
magnification. The overall shape of NGC 1491 might be described as triangular 
but with the OIII a dark N-S lane that bisects the nebula into 2 long streaks 
can be seen. Observed with AV, very faint patches of NGC 1491 extend across the 
8mag star and a bit further east. The before mentioned bright streaks are 
approx. 6-7' long.

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From anonymous at sedna.atmob.org  Fri Nov 19 04:53:37 2004
From: anonymous at sedna.atmob.org (anonymous at sedna.atmob.org)
Date: 19 Nov 2004 09:53:37 -0000
Subject: (IAAC) Obj: NGC 1513 - Inst: 15 inch Obsession f4,5
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Observer: Armin Hermann
Your skills: Advanced (many years)
Date/time of observation: 18-19 Nov 2004
Location of site: Sangkhlaburi, Thailand (Lat 15?09' N, Elev 200m)
Site classification: Exurban
Sky darkness: 6,2 <Limiting magnitude>
Seeing: 9+ <1-10 Seeing Scale (10 best)>
Moon presence: None - moon not in sky
Instrument: 15 inch Obsession f4,5
Magnification: 131x
Filter(s): n
Object(s): NGC 1513
Category: Open cluster.
Class: 
Constellation: Per
Data: mag --  size 7x5'
Position: RA :  DEC :
Description:
Bright, small galactic nebula located just W of an 8,5mag star. The nebula 
responds very well to the OIII filter and shows a lot of detail at 131x 
magnification. The overall shape of NGC 1491 might be described as triangular 
but with the OIII a dark N-S lane that bisects the nebula into 2 long streaks 
can be seen. Observed with AV, very faint patches of NGC 1491 extend across the 
8mag star and a bit further east. The before mentioned bright streaks are 
approx. 6-7' long.

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From anonymous at sedna.atmob.org  Fri Nov 19 04:55:54 2004
From: anonymous at sedna.atmob.org (anonymous at sedna.atmob.org)
Date: 19 Nov 2004 09:55:54 -0000
Subject: (IAAC) Obj: NGC 1513 - Inst: 15 inch Obsession f4,5
Message-ID: <20041119095554.16029.qmail@sedna.atmob.org>

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Observer: Armin Hermann
Your skills: Advanced (many years)
Date/time of observation: 18-19 Nov 2004
Location of site: Sangkhlaburi, Thailand (Lat 15?09' N, Elev 200m)
Site classification: Exurban
Sky darkness: 6,2 <Limiting magnitude>
Seeing: 9+ <1-10 Seeing Scale (10 best)>
Moon presence: None - moon not in sky
Instrument: 15 inch Obsession f4,5
Magnification: 131x
Filter(s): none
Object(s): NGC 1513
Category: Open cluster.
Class: 
Constellation: Per
Data: mag 8,4magv  size 9'
Position: RA :  DEC :
Description:
NGC 1513 is a compact cluster of around 50 stars of 10th to 15th magnitude. Its 
shape is somehow distorted into a horseshoe with the opening towards the E. 
Very pretty object at 131x.

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From anonymous at sedna.atmob.org  Fri Nov 19 05:01:57 2004
From: anonymous at sedna.atmob.org (anonymous at sedna.atmob.org)
Date: 19 Nov 2004 10:01:57 -0000
Subject: (IAAC) Obj: NGC 1792, NGC 1808 - Inst: 15 inch Obsession f4,5
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Observer: Armin Hermann
Your skills: Advanced (many years)
Date/time of observation: 18-19 Nov 2004
Location of site: Sangkhlaburi, Thailand (Lat 15?09' N, Elev 200m)
Site classification: Exurban
Sky darkness: 6,2 <Limiting magnitude>
Seeing: 9+ <1-10 Seeing Scale (10 best)>
Moon presence: None - moon not in sky
Instrument: 15 inch Obsession f4,5
Magnification: 131 and 342x
Filter(s): none
Object(s): NGC 1792, NGC 1808
Category: External galaxy.
Class: 
Constellation: Col
Data: mag both 9,9magv  size 5,5x2,5' and 5,2x2,3'
Position: RA :  DEC :
Description:
NGC 1792:
Even though it has roughly the same size as nearby 1808, NGC 1792 does not look 
as bright at all. The 5x2' patch of nebulosity does not even show any signs of 
a center or core. It is plainly structureless. A very faint star is located 
just at the W edge of the galaxy close to its middle. Unspectacular.

NGC 1808:
Bright edge-on galaxy in Columba at -37?. At 131x it streches over approx 
5x1,5' and shows an elongated bright center. Nice.

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From anonymous at sedna.atmob.org  Fri Nov 19 05:10:10 2004
From: anonymous at sedna.atmob.org (anonymous at sedna.atmob.org)
Date: 19 Nov 2004 10:10:10 -0000
Subject: (IAAC) Obj: NGC 2245 - Inst: 15 inch Obsession f4,5
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Observer: Armin Hermann
Your skills: Advanced (many years)
Date/time of observation: 18-19 Nov 2004
Location of site: Sangkhlaburi, Thailand (Lat 15?09' N, Elev 200m)
Site classification: Exurban
Sky darkness: 6,2 <Limiting magnitude>
Seeing: 9+ <1-10 Seeing Scale (10 best)>
Moon presence: None - moon not in sky
Instrument: 15 inch Obsession f4,5
Magnification: 131x
Filter(s): none
Object(s): NGC 2245
Category: Emission nebula.
Class: 
Constellation: Mon
Data: mag - -  size 7'
Position: RA :  DEC :
Description:
At 131x this rather faint nebula resembles a faint comet. The core of 
the "comet" head is a 10th mag star and the nebula fans out approx 7' to the 
SW. Interesting shape but otherwise unspectacular. Needs averted vision even 
under good and clear skies.
OIII Filter does not make the nebula stand out better.

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From anonymous at sedna.atmob.org  Fri Nov 19 05:14:18 2004
From: anonymous at sedna.atmob.org (anonymous at sedna.atmob.org)
Date: 19 Nov 2004 10:14:18 -0000
Subject: (IAAC) Obj: NGC 2359, Duck Nebula - Inst: 15 inch Obsession f4,5
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Observer: Armin Hermann
Your skills: Advanced (many years)
Date/time of observation: 18-19 Nov 2004
Location of site: Sangkhlaburi, Thailand (Lat 15?09' N, Elev 200m)
Site classification: Exurban
Sky darkness: 6,2 <Limiting magnitude>
Seeing: 9+ <1-10 Seeing Scale (10 best)>
Moon presence: None - moon not in sky
Instrument: 15 inch Obsession f4,5
Magnification: 131x
Filter(s): O III
Object(s): NGC 2359, Duck Nebula
Category: Emission nebula.
Class: 
Constellation: CMa
Data: mag - -  size 6x8'
Position: RA :  DEC :
Description:
Phantastic! Very bright nebula that is best observed with an OIII filter. At 
131x with filter the shape of NGC 2359 reminds me of a pelikan or duck with a 
very long bill. The nebula features an almost round part of 6' diameter that 
looks like a huge planetary nebula. Attached to the S is a bright 8x2' long 
streak that resembles the head and bill of the duck. The N-edge of the round 
part also contains a smaller, bright filament that can be seen as the feet of 
the duck. Several stars are embedded in NGC 2359. Very beautiful nebula and 
definitely something I should have observed much earlier!

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From lgramer at upstream.net  Fri Nov 19 18:01:17 2004
From: lgramer at upstream.net (Lewis J. Gramer)
Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2004 18:01:17 -0500
Subject: (IAAC) Lew leaving his job at upstream.net...
Message-ID: <200411192301.SAA07186@bruiser.bcentralhost.com>

Just a short note to all and sundry - I've just been
let go from Upstream, and so will be offline for some
while. If you want to reach me, call my home or (so
long as it still works) my cell...

Lew Gramer
Home: 781-396-7822
Cell: 617-875-1174




From beren0356 at yahoo.com  Sat Nov 20 12:48:25 2004
From: beren0356 at yahoo.com (Nola Jones)
Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2004 09:48:25 -0800 (PST)
Subject: (IAAC) please unsubscribe me
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I am trying to unsubscribe also and have been unsucessful.  Sorry I can't help you either.

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From anonymous at sedna.atmob.org  Sat Nov 27 01:47:36 2004
From: anonymous at sedna.atmob.org (anonymous at sedna.atmob.org)
Date: 27 Nov 2004 06:47:36 -0000
Subject: (IAAC) 
	Obj: M31, Globular & Open Clusters in M31, Part 2 - Inst: 15 inch
	Obsession f4,5
Message-ID: <20041127064736.27049.qmail@sedna.atmob.org>

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Observation Poster: Armin Hermann <burmeseinn at yahoo.com>

Observer: Armin Hermann
Your skills: Advanced (many years)
Date/time of observation: 18 Nov 2004
Location of site: Sangkhlaburi, Thailand (Lat 15?09' N, Elev 200m)
Site classification: Exurban
Sky darkness: 6+ <Limiting magnitude>
Seeing: 9+ <1-10 Seeing Scale (10 best)>
Moon presence: None - moon not in sky
Instrument: 15 inch Obsession f4,5
Magnification: 342x
Filter(s): none
Object(s): M31, Globular & Open Clusters in M31, Part 2
Category: Globular cluster.
Class: 
Constellation: And
Data: mag various  size various
Position: RA :  DEC :
Description:
Extremely clear skies provided me with another chance to look for more GCs in 
M31. I did also observe some objects that I observed on the 16th Nov. GCs that 
were rather difficult on that day, were fairly easy on the 18th as visibility 
was so much better. The seeing was probably not as good but, good enough for 
high magnifications.

G287: (5), 00 44 42, +41 43 55, V 15,8,  extremely faint and stellar. Very 
difficult even with averted vision (AV)

G305: (4), 00 45 41, +41 45 33, V 15,6,  faint but fairly easy with averted 
vision. Stellar.

G286: (4), V 15,7, requires AV, non-stellar fairly big (3?) smudge of light), 
no central brightening or core.

G270: (5), ?, extremely faint. AV only, pops up as a stellar object. G270 is
logged on the picture in the Deep Sky Observer's Handbook but not in lists
detailing the object's brightness. I estimate its brightness to 15,8-15,9mag.

G233: (2), 00 43,6, +41 08 26, V 15,4, fairly easy and directly visible (then 
stellar). With averted vision non-stellar.


Two objects from 16 Nov (G252 and G213) were 2 levels easier to observe than on 
the 16th. I think that I have reached the limits of my 15 inch last night with 
the observation of all those objects. It brings the number of objects I have 
seen in M31 to 23 (!), including Mayall 2 a few years earlier and NGC 206.
As a reference map for all the observations of GCs and Cs in M31 I did use a 
picture with locations of the objects from Deep Sky Observer's Handbook.


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